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if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher need a high powered hand gun? >> well, he didn't need any hand gun to kill, to murder his wife and leave the poor baby as an orphan. o.j. simpson showed that football players like lots of other domestic abusers, can kill people with their bare hands. >> right, but why does anybody in america need either a hand gun or high powered assault weapon? i don't understand. explain to me. >> i don't think the police have released what kind of hand gun he owned. do you know what kind he owned? why are you calling it a high powered hand gun? >> well, i'm assuming most hand guns are high powered, right? >> so you ca
if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> poignant words. what should this country do in response? joining me to debate what is certainly a matter of life and death to so many people is david copel, research director at the independence institute. on the other side is josh horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. welcome to you both. david, let me ask you, i suppose an obvious question, why did jovan belcher...
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one of belcher's friends tells a sports blog called dead spin after game last month belcher was dazed and couldn't remember what had happened the day before or at least before the game. steve brown is on fox top story. is he live in our midwest bureau tonight. what sort of signs of trouble before this shooting? anything? >> about the allegations that belcher had had head trauma or concussions, both the team and the league said there is no concussion history that they have on this man. and that he was never held out of a game because of a concussion. about the relationship between belcher and perkins, fox 4 our affiliate in kansas city spoke with friends and said saturday morning there was an argument and over her late return from a concert. and then the shots were fired. it really didn't make any sense to belcher's family. his aunt lives in the kansas city area. she read this statement for cameras today: we will cherish the wonderful memories we of have of javon and pray that those memories bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable end of his life and the life of ca
one of belcher's friends tells a sports blog called dead spin after game last month belcher was dazed and couldn't remember what had happened the day before or at least before the game. steve brown is on fox top story. is he live in our midwest bureau tonight. what sort of signs of trouble before this shooting? anything? >> about the allegations that belcher had had head trauma or concussions, both the team and the league said there is no concussion history that they have on this man. and...
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belcher, a friend claimed belcher was abusing alcohol and prescription meds at the time this happened. here's a guy who graduated a degree in child development and family relatis from the university of maine. you heard the quote from his coach saying he was a great guy. we were all proud of him. wh is the nfl, is the nfl doing something wrong here? are they encourage couraginging behavior? >> game is getting faster and only more violent. ricky can speak with this. when a player goes down with concussion there is no independent doctor comes on the field like a bing match, this player can't go. he is out of this one. a doctor pid by the team. so it is in the team's best interest when michael vic goes down with injury he is good to go. he doesn'tant to tell the coach, franchise player. vick wants to play and make his money and behe quarterback of the eagles. the coach wants him to pla in doctor's case who is the one to say i don't think this is the best decision? he has a incentive as well. gerri: peter was mentioning how the big hits are not happening and not as bad as it used be and ye
belcher, a friend claimed belcher was abusing alcohol and prescription meds at the time this happened. here's a guy who graduated a degree in child development and family relatis from the university of maine. you heard the quote from his coach saying he was a great guy. we were all proud of him. wh is the nfl, is the nfl doing something wrong here? are they encourage couraginging behavior? >> game is getting faster and only more violent. ricky can speak with this. when a player goes down...
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belcher went to into a rage because she went to oo concert and left his baby at home. romeo personnel said he was shocked and showed no major issues. a campus police report shows belcher had a history of vief lens and once punched out a window about a girl. >> syria started to move it's xh chemical weapons. >> world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using twheepz upons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> the warning hours after secretary of state hillary clinton said using the weapons would cross a red line and the u.s. would take action. syrian jets continue to pound opposition fighters. assad said he would never use chemical weapons on his own people. >> the shooter can keep his beard for now. the appeals court through out an order that hassan be shaved and they kicked him off the case. they said the judge was biassed. he was accused of killing 13 people in a 2009 rampage including a pregnant woman. >> captain of the hms bounty care more about saving the ship th
belcher went to into a rage because she went to oo concert and left his baby at home. romeo personnel said he was shocked and showed no major issues. a campus police report shows belcher had a history of vief lens and once punched out a window about a girl. >> syria started to move it's xh chemical weapons. >> world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using twheepz upons there will be consequences and you...
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belcher's coaches say fierce determination made him a starter. kansas city chiefs players say they never saw warning signs in the recent behavior. the teammate called on to replace belcher in the line-up. young age. high profile jobs. he's a young father. did you ever get the sense that he was struggling to deal with pressures? >> we never seen anything. he never gave up a sign. or pressure was too much. he was always happy. >> reporter: did he ever experience troubles of his personal life? >> no major troubles in his life. everybody has some issues in their personal life. i mean, all of us here have issues in our personal life. and everybody handles issues differently. he seemed like a strong-willed individual to me. he's a leader. he was sitting in the front of the classroom. he's a first to the drills. i'm not a psychologist. i don't know what made him snap. >> reporter: perkins' family spokesperson said there were never any signs of trouble in the relationship, described them as loving couple and belcher never abused her the family says and t
belcher's coaches say fierce determination made him a starter. kansas city chiefs players say they never saw warning signs in the recent behavior. the teammate called on to replace belcher in the line-up. young age. high profile jobs. he's a young father. did you ever get the sense that he was struggling to deal with pressures? >> we never seen anything. he never gave up a sign. or pressure was too much. he was always happy. >> reporter: did he ever experience troubles of his...
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. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life and the life of kasandra perkins. >> kansas city police confirm that the gun used by belcher was purchased legally. belcher's mother has been given temporary custody of the couple's daughter, zoe. >> a picture of suspect george zimmerman released by his attorney reportedly taken by a police officer the night zimmerman shot and killed martin. the bloody picture itself is not new, but the fact it's a high resolution color photo is. zimmerman's attorney says it gives the case more context. >> is it devastating? no. but it's just one piece of evidence that shows what george was going through that night and why he re
. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life...
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we have disturbing new details in the murder-suicide case of nfl player jovan belcher. police tell "the kansas city star" that belcher's mother saw him kiss his girlfriend on the forehead saying he was sorry. seconds after he shot her on saturday. he also kissed his baby daughter and apologized to his own mother. >> kansas city police say belcher legally owned the handgun that he used to kill kasandra perkins and then himself there. are no official numbers, but some players and coaches say 50% to 90% of nfl players own guns. jim axelrod looks at why athletes and firearms go together so often. >> i'm 21 years old, i have a lot of money in one pocket and a gun in the other pocket and i'm saying please leave me alone. >> reporter: this is former pro football player marcellus wiley, a gun control advocate speaking three years ago at the brady center about why he used to carry a gun. >> i remember taking the same gun to the nightclubs, to the restaurants where i would go eat. not to be a villain, but just really in a warped sense of mind, an identity trying to protect myself
we have disturbing new details in the murder-suicide case of nfl player jovan belcher. police tell "the kansas city star" that belcher's mother saw him kiss his girlfriend on the forehead saying he was sorry. seconds after he shot her on saturday. he also kissed his baby daughter and apologized to his own mother. >> kansas city police say belcher legally owned the handgun that he used to kill kasandra perkins and then himself there. are no official numbers, but some players and...
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became the bloodiest says they'll prising things the president began two weeks ago cairo based reporter belcher told me the latest. right now i have to hurry square work the scenes. the have been scuffles on the square here behind me outside the presidential palace i tried reports that the clashes have broken out during the day but basically we've seen very violent scenes overnight my colleague tom barton was there reporting from the scene we're about as close as we cracked to the fighting here in central cairo near the presidential palace a few. muslim brotherhood supporters up there is pelting stones to see morsy persisters here who are giving as much stones back to the crowds are flowing to and fro injuries are going carried back when their stores with head wounds and other wounds from the flying stones moment talk can't tales are being thrown the buildings were a set your alarm set on the fire so it is an immensely violent situation even just send it from an earlier in the day when the person who is supporters arrived at the un to you know see a protest has come dismantled that i'm attached
became the bloodiest says they'll prising things the president began two weeks ago cairo based reporter belcher told me the latest. right now i have to hurry square work the scenes. the have been scuffles on the square here behind me outside the presidential palace i tried reports that the clashes have broken out during the day but basically we've seen very violent scenes overnight my colleague tom barton was there reporting from the scene we're about as close as we cracked to the fighting here...
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and for more details let's not go to cairo where joined live by reporter belcher good morning but also how there been any signs of violence outside cairo. absolutely so not only are we witnessing violence outside the presidential palace has been described by eyewitnesses just now and we're seeing violence in other cities like a sewer is an area. and pro morsi supporters are meeting in clashing in particular the headquarters of the muslim brotherhoods have been attacked which is which has already happened last week during these clashes between rival protest groups following morsi is what they called power grab constitutional declaration we want himself sweeping powers and of course the constitution which is being put to referendum supposedly next week which many of the opposition groups seized in the gist of this yes and what's been the official reaction to what happened in the direction capital overnight. the i mean the reaction really and from of the fischel level has been almost minimal president morsi has yet to come forward and addresses opposition which has been one of the major c
and for more details let's not go to cairo where joined live by reporter belcher good morning but also how there been any signs of violence outside cairo. absolutely so not only are we witnessing violence outside the presidential palace has been described by eyewitnesses just now and we're seeing violence in other cities like a sewer is an area. and pro morsi supporters are meeting in clashing in particular the headquarters of the muslim brotherhoods have been attacked which is which has...
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palace in cairo which reportedly falls they gyptian lead it to flee the building cairo based reporter belcher has more cars. i was that in the march tenth out of tens of thousands of protesters coming from various locations in cairo converging in front of the presidential palace in a suburb of cairo when they got there they were greeted by police behind barbed wire and really i mean speaking of the protesters they felt like they wanted to protest the walls of the presidential palace to the president not to what they said was a bunch of police so what happened is they broke through the barbed wire which obviously was met with the same tear gas so quite low take asked by the police who actually fled eventually and the tens of thousands of protesters continue and had their protest there in front of the walls right now as you can see behind me got an ongoing sit in the hundreds that sleeping in on the hunt square and in addition we've got hundreds outside the presidential palace also staging a sit in the national salvation front which is the kurdish opposition forces they have three points that t
palace in cairo which reportedly falls they gyptian lead it to flee the building cairo based reporter belcher has more cars. i was that in the march tenth out of tens of thousands of protesters coming from various locations in cairo converging in front of the presidential palace in a suburb of cairo when they got there they were greeted by police behind barbed wire and really i mean speaking of the protesters they felt like they wanted to protest the walls of the presidential palace to the...
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he made some pretty controversial comments a day african can city chiefs player jovan belcher killed the mother of his 3-year-old daughter and then drove to arrowhead stadium and shot himself. >> you want some actual perspective on this? well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city based writer jason whitlock with whom i do not always agree, but today said it so well that we may as well from the end of his article. our current gun krul tour, whitlock wrote, insures that nestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenience store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will lee more teenage boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our gnaws, tempt us to escalate confrontation rather than avoiding it. >> pretty clear what he was saying. howard kurtz from cnn's ""reliable sources" "joins me live now by skype. quite a discussion has erupted since those comments were made, howie. is that a legitimate conversation that we should all be having about what bob said? >> well, it's an important conversation, ashleigh, but by stepp
he made some pretty controversial comments a day african can city chiefs player jovan belcher killed the mother of his 3-year-old daughter and then drove to arrowhead stadium and shot himself. >> you want some actual perspective on this? well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city based writer jason whitlock with whom i do not always agree, but today said it so well that we may as well from the end of his article. our current gun krul tour, whitlock wrote, insures that nestic disputes...
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belcher in a murder-suicide over the weekend. and the titans receiver shot himself and jr. seau, and atlantic falcon safety, as well, and his occupy showed he had a britain disease linked to repeated concussions. last year the former bears star shot himself in the chest. he left a note saying, please, see that my brain is given to the nfl. he had brain damage related to his hard hits. now this new study, new study that just came out, adding to the body of evidence linking repeated brain injuries or head injuries to brain damage. and republickers have found that 80 percent of people with a history of mild brain trauma later showed signs of damage that can cause depression and dementia. our doctor joins us, a specialist in head and brain injuries. thank you, doctor. a lot of these injuries, and it feels like we are in news from the future on the >>guest: it does. today's story about the boston university report is significant because as you said, more than 68 of the 89 people they studied had some evidence of getting hit frequently. they played professional experts, 55 of the
belcher in a murder-suicide over the weekend. and the titans receiver shot himself and jr. seau, and atlantic falcon safety, as well, and his occupy showed he had a britain disease linked to repeated concussions. last year the former bears star shot himself in the chest. he left a note saying, please, see that my brain is given to the nfl. he had brain damage related to his hard hits. now this new study, new study that just came out, adding to the body of evidence linking repeated brain...
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the "new york post" says chief linebacker jovan belcher was playing the field, so to speak. and spent the night at another woman's apartment friday night. in the morning, he returned home where he murdered his girlfriend and then turned the gun on himself in front of his coaches. >>> there is a new report that belcher was violent in the past. in 2006, he punched his fist through a window because he was upset with a girl. maybe this whole thing has nothing to do with guns. maybe it was domestic violence. they were portrayed in the book and movie "in cold blood". investigators in florida are trying to figure out if the two men convicted of murdering the clutter family in kansas in 1959 killed another family. dick hickcock and perry smith are suspected of killing the walker family. authorities are hoping to exhume their bodies to test the dna evidence. >>> lawyers for george zimmerman releasing this new photo that they say was taken the night that trayvon martin was shot and killed. you remember this story. the picture now shows zimmerman with a bloody nose. he claims he pulled
the "new york post" says chief linebacker jovan belcher was playing the field, so to speak. and spent the night at another woman's apartment friday night. in the morning, he returned home where he murdered his girlfriend and then turned the gun on himself in front of his coaches. >>> there is a new report that belcher was violent in the past. in 2006, he punched his fist through a window because he was upset with a girl. maybe this whole thing has nothing to do with guns....
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but stretching from javon belcher and the shooting in syria and chemical weapons seems like a bit of a stretch. the implications of that is that every american should have access to chemical weapons and nuclear weapons. it will result in weapons ownership. look at europe. look at japan. look at the rest of the world. we are way, way out there. we have the highest murder rate in the world. it hasn't protected us. it has resulted in arguments that should have a consequence of maybe a slap in the face, resulting in a bullet through the heart. it results in a double-murder in this case, a murder/suicide. guns don't protect. they cause suicide. >> let me bring in -- >> they cause suicide? >> i can promise, i'll get back to you, carol. here is what they say to me. i've had it all. but trying to get a debate going. i've been on two years on cnn. in that time, there's been a series of gun rages. each time it is the same debate and nothing gets done about it. 300 million guns and you have between 11,000 and 12,000 guns and murders a year. by comparison, britain has 35 as does germany and aust
but stretching from javon belcher and the shooting in syria and chemical weapons seems like a bit of a stretch. the implications of that is that every american should have access to chemical weapons and nuclear weapons. it will result in weapons ownership. look at europe. look at japan. look at the rest of the world. we are way, way out there. we have the highest murder rate in the world. it hasn't protected us. it has resulted in arguments that should have a consequence of maybe a slap in the...
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meantime, several chiefs players attended a memorial service for belcher yesterday. he killed his girlfriend at the house they shared on saturday before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. but his little daughter will receive at least $1 million from the nfl as she grows up. $9,000 per month for the next four years. and then at least $4,000 per month from age 4 until she turns 18 or if she does go to college. >> 23 goes to college. so incentive to stay in school. covered by the league's health care plan for the next five years as well. so the team was represented at, his funeral service, yesterday. and will also have team representation at his girlfriend's service, in a few days. so it's still a tragic situation at least you know the little girl the real victim in all of this will be taken care of by the league. >> as will beneficiaries receive $1.2 million. they're not necessarily stating who those beneficiaries are at the moment, though. tragic though. >>> in other news this morning. major developments in the fight against breast cancer. a new study
meantime, several chiefs players attended a memorial service for belcher yesterday. he killed his girlfriend at the house they shared on saturday before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. but his little daughter will receive at least $1 million from the nfl as she grows up. $9,000 per month for the next four years. and then at least $4,000 per month from age 4 until she turns 18 or if she does go to college. >> 23 goes to college. so incentive to stay in school. covered by...